I
met Sami Dee a few days ago, at the prestigious Hôtel Intercontinental in
Paris. One of the few French DJ’s to have known the golden age of NYC club
scene, cofounder of Better Days (a mythic house & garage radio show on
NRJ), DJ, producer and now label owner, he is without a doubt one of French
house music key figures. Action !
Could you first introduce
yourself ?
I'm first and foremost a DJ,
I've always wanted to do that. I may produce tracks, remixes, but I think of
myself as a DJ. I started this way and I'll never stop. So I would define myself
as an … excellent DJ !
How would you define the music
you're playing ? House, garage ?
That's such a strange question …
because if you had asked it ten years ago to my fathers, be it Frankie Knuckles,
David Morales or Kenny Carpenter, they would have answered that they play dance
music, music for clubs; there wasn't really a name for it, there was no label …
For the last ten years people have put labels on everything, and now there are
countless rock sub-genres, countless house sub-genres … I would say that I play
a music for the clubs, supposedly called house is, in the broadest acceptation.
Deep house, garage, techno; I like my set to evolve all night long. I also like
to play songs with strong lyrics, because I play with words too, as they do in
New York. And I prefer 5 or 6 hour sets, because it gives me the opportunity to
play all that I like, and to play with people mood.
Your definition of a good DJ ?
The one who lives intensely what
he's playing! I'm very eccentric, and some people blame me for it. They blame me
for my attitude, my cigars, my pink hat, the fact that I'm bare-chested during
my gigs … I don't care ! That something I've always done. The good DJ is also
the one who's paying attention to the dancefloor expectations, and who's playing
the right song at the right time. It has nothing to do with technique. I would
even be able to create an atmosphere with only one turntable! The difficult
thing is to adapt to the dancefloor, to understand the audience … It's useless
to try to "educate people", people don't want to be educated, they just want to
have a good time ! We are here to entertain them, and a lot of deejays miss the
point about that ! What is more, if people see that the deejay himself is having
a good time, they're going to have a good time too. Why do they go to the club ?
To release themselves, to forget their everyday life ! But a lot of people,
clubbers and deejays, have forgotten this in Paris …
How do you explain that ?
It's just French people
mentality! Never satisfied… It seems like some people go to the club to
criticize everything, and to be bored. As if I went to the cinema and if, in the
middle of the movie, I stood up and complained that there isn't enough light to
read my book …And the point is that, without good clubbers, there is no good
deejay ! What we need is a special state of mind, the will to party. In Paris we
used to find this state of mind in venues like Le Palace, or even Le Queen, at
the beginning of the 90's. But it
slowly fades away …
Tell us about your beginning …
It all started with the mythic
80’s French television broadcast, "Les Enfants du Rock". In the middle of a
report on Michael Jackson, who had just released "Thriller", I saw Bruce Swedien,
who is one of the best sound engineers on earth,
and behind him a huge mixing
desk. I remember saying to my mother : "I want to do that !". And this was the
beginning of the end ! I was 13 … a few years later, another important step was
the discovery of another broadcast, "More music less talk", which was RLP
mixshow on Radio 7. Thanks to him I understood that I wanted to be a deejay. It
also helped me discover Shep Pettibone, the Latin Rascals, Arthur Baker …And
also a new name, a certain David Morales. But the most important thing occurred
after my high school diploma, in 1989. I didn't want to go to the university,
and my mother agreed, but only If I went to a foreign country to learn a new
language. I chose the USA, and New York, because all my heroes lived here ! I
wanted to meet Arthur Baker, to go to Shakedown studios …In fact I spent the
first three months learning English language, working very hard. One night, a
friend of mine proposed me to go out. I was homesick, didn't feel like going
out, but finally she took me to a club, whose name Red Zone was. 3000 people,
blacks, portoricans, great sound and lights… This was so good, I wanted to meet
the core ; I waited til 5 A.M., and then I dare to talk to him. We had a little
chat, and before leaving the place, I asked his name. He answered… David
Morales. I stayed speechless, as If I had seen Jesus Christ himself ! I asked
him for an autograph, I must have been the first person to do that, because he
was at the beginning of his career … I went back to the Red Zone every week end,
during one year. David put me on the guest list, and I became his assistant. He
also took me to the studio, and I watched him producing all his classics… I was
the only one allowed to be in the studio when he worked. The following year I
went back to France, I met Bibi, and together we created the Better Days
broadcast on NRJ Radio.
Let's talk about your
broadcasts, Better Days on NRJ and now Butterfly on
Radio FG. What do they mean to you ?
The ultimate nightclub ! It's
all about dreaming. When I'm recording them, I remember when I was 16, listening
to a Tony Humphries or RLP mixshow. That's why a radio broadcast has to be
perfect, according to me. You've got to respect the listener ! He should be able
to enter your world, your story, to feel your emotions. Even If there is only
one person listening to your broadcast, if he's dreaming thanks to you, then
you've reached the top ! A club is very impersonal, whereas on the radio, there
are only two persons : you, and the listener.
In another interview you said
that clubbing is perhaps not adapted anymore to our society …
Why do you go out ? To drink,
and to chat up girls or boys …And perhaps to listen to a music you like. AIDS
came. It made all this more difficult. And alcohol has become way too expensive
… I’m not saying alcohol is necessary to have a good time, but it helps to liven
things up ! How can a boy pay for the entrance, pay for his girlfriend, and so
on, with such prices ? People drink less, and the atmosphere in the clubs is
showing the effect ! Party promoters don't know how to entertain people.
Tell us a little about your new
label, …
First I'm going to release a
sampler with a track by each of my friends, Bibi, DJ Matt, including one by
myself. Then I would like to release tracks by my old friend Kenny Carpenter,
who is doing lots of them, but never releases them ! It's going to be mainly a
house label, but I would like to open it to the new generation of producers.
Other projects ? An album for
instance ?
I'd love to produce an entire
album but I can't afford it ! It would not be a entire house album, there would
also be reggae songs, or even ballads in it …Being a producer, not a true
musician, I would like to afford the luxury to hire the best musicians. Because
with such people things are much simpler, you've only got to get them together
and tell : "Now play !"
As it was for your remix of
Ophélie Winter's "Livin' In Me", on which people like Terry Burrus or Peter
Schwartz worked …
My greatest work to date ! I
content myself to sing the bass, the rhythm, and then I did the cuts on the SSL.
Terry Burrus played the piano and the B3, Peter Schwartz did the keyboard
arrangements, it was so easy ! But it doesn't cost nothing … And home studio
technology has made people think that real musicians are useless. So nobody in
the dance music business wants to pay for them.
The way you work and your source
of inspiration ?
I remember things from the
past, images of New York, and I imagine people having a good time, a backroom
full of gays, or beautiful girls shaking their butt … and then I try to make it
perceptible in my song !
The artists you would like to
work with ?
Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Chaka
Khan, Bono, because they have such a great voice …
The five songs you would take
with you to the moon ?
1- Sinatra ‘’Fly Me To The
Moon’’, 2- Mozart Requiem performed by The Berlin Philharmonic, and orchestrated
by Herbert Von Karajan, 3- Love Committee "Just As Long As I've Got You" 4- U2
"With Or Without You" 5- Sounds Of Blackness "The Pressure" remixed by Frankie
Knuckles and ... 6- Shawn Christopher "Don't Lose The Magic" remixed by David
Morales.
An advice to
be given to the apprentice DJ’s ?
I would ask him why he wants to
become a deejay, ask him if he has the Faith, and I'd tell him a last thing :
consider the present state of music, of the music business, and try to imagine
how it will be in 15 years …
You can
listen to Sami Dee weekly mixshow on Radio FG, each Monday 22:00 to 23:00 (ECT).
Streaming available on
radiofg.com .
More infos :
samidee.com